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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Alan 2:52 Mon Mar 12
Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Evening Standard

David Sullivan must take a step back – West Ham need a chief executive to direct the club

KEN DYER

What occurred at the London Stadium on Saturday was unpleasant, unacceptable and for some - such as club legend Sir Trevor Brooking, captain Mark Noble, and members of the club’s triumphant FA Cup-winning side of 1964 who were there as special guests - just plain sad.


Centre of the storm | Irate West Ham fans turn their anger on club co-owner David Sullivan in the directors’ box at the London Stadium on Saturday Photo: Christopher Lee/West Ham United via Getty Images

As Sir Trevor will be only too aware though, it is not the first time that a section of West Ham fans have shown their displeasure in a similar way.

In the 1991-92 season when the club, on the back of promotion, decided in their wisdom to introduce a bond scheme, there were various pitch invasions including one where a fan took it upon himself to sit down in protest on the centre spot at the Boleyn Ground. West Ham were relegated that year.

In 1996-97, when they were again struggling to stay in the top division and the then chairman Terry Brown refused to sell to Michael Tabor, there was a ‘red card’ protest and another pitch invasion. The club stayed up, largely because they responded by investing significantly in two strikers, John Hartson and Paul Kitson.

So the question today has to be: what are David Sullivan, David Gold and Karren Brady intending to do to placate those supporters - and there are many of them - who are unhappy with the way the club are being run?

Not the few who ran on the pitch on Saturday during the 3-0 defeat to Burnley, the fan who brandished a corner flag, not even the couple of hundred who took advantage of the inept stewarding to vent their fury at the hierarchy - but the mostly silent majority who feel the club they loyally support are at best shambolic and at worst entirely dysfunctional.

The first and most pressing answer to what now seems an almost insoluble problem is that there is no repeat when West Ham next play at home in three weeks’ time of the weekend’s ugly scenes which are now the subject of a Football Association and club enquiry.

That, you would imagine, could be solved by sensible stewarding but not at the London Stadium, where such matters are overseen by the stadium operators, LS185.

Is it too much to ask, when there are supposed to be a thousand stewards at West Ham’s home matches, for one or two to actually go onto the pitch and give club captain Noble a hand in apprehending one or two of the offenders?

The reasons why those few infiltrated the playing area, why hundreds roared their abusive discontent - and thousands more are unhappy and disillusioned - are more complex and, as a result, more problematical.

Noble summed it up on Saturday when he said that the ill-feeling had been bubbling away for two seasons - in fact ever since the club moved from their old home, with all its East End history and atmosphere, to the more sterile environs of Stratford.

There were those, as with every club that moves home, who just do not want to go; there are some who are apprehensive but prepared to give it a try - and those who cannot wait to sample a new, bigger stadium with infinitely better transport links, loads more toilets and - in West Ham’s case - sensibly-priced seats.

It is even okay, as West Ham’s owners did, to promise their supporters that this was the moment - not merely a commercial opportunity - to take the club to a different level and even European qualification.

That ambition was something to which fans could cling when the seating was not retractable as was promised and some seats were so far away from the action that opticians in East London and Essex suddenly struck boom time.

If you promise success, you have to deliver it and a £29 million net investment in the West Ham playing squad since they moved has proved totally inadequate.

When you add in a selection of the intemperate public utterances by the people who are supposed to run the club, the £43m profit they made in the 2016-17 season - and failed to re-invest in the squad - and it is unsurprising that West Ham’s fan base has quite simply had enough.

Even the cancellation of the mass protest march last Saturday backfired because many who felt thwarted by that decision vented their spleen in the stadium immediately Burnley scored the first of their three goals.

So how can this perilous situation be improved? Most importantly, Sullivan must stop doing player deals and talking to agents but follow the example of practically every other professional club and appoint someone with experience and knowledge, whether a chief executive, managing director or whatever, to act as a conduit between owners and management.

As for West Ham’s supporters, they need to temporarily put aside their grievances and back their team if they want to be watching Premier League football next season.

One thing is for sure, things need to change at West Ham DisUnited - and quickly.

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gph 1:45 Tue Mar 13
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
If football players had to be blown up, I'm pretty sure D Sullivan would be ace at choosing them.

*blushes*

Not that I'd know about his other products...

wanstead_hammer 11:48 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
dicksie3 10:17 + Sven Roeder 11:02
Both spot on.

Good to see the press are now painting the real picture for all
to see.

aldgate 11:33 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Watched death of Stalin last night. First 30 minutes when Stalin was still alive had uncanny echos of Sullivan

TopGun 11:09 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
3 Yiddo loving cunts

Sven Roeder 11:02 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Sullivan is Director of Football and has overseen about 20 players coming in that we have bought or loaned in the last couple of years.
You could argue that Arnautovic is the only one who has improved the team
Anyone else with that record would have been sacked ages ago

Gold , Sullivan and Brady are incompetent failures and have to go
All this other talk about changes is rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic without the 3 of them never being seen within 50 miles of the club ever again

13 Brentford Rd 10:53 Mon Mar 12
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"Football Manager"

13 Brentford Rd 10:53 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Sullivan would be shit on For Manager.
Has no common sense even.
Still can't see why we loaned Mario, exactly what we didn't need.
We were crying out for a defensive midfielder type, an enforcer, ball winner etc... even before Obiang got injured, that signing along with a striker who was clearly not good enough for any Prem side, is baffling. He has actually managed to weaken the squad.
Unbelievable ineptitude.

Hasans Fish Bar RIP 10:22 Mon Mar 12
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Any article in the standard about west ham that wasnt by Ken dyer used to blank. But recently he became a bit of a stooge. When you see a report now that is vaguely anti board you know things are bad.

VirginiaHam 10:20 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Do they want to make any changes?

One rumour (can't remember where) was they wanted to get relegated so they could buy the stadium on the cheap. Please don't shoot me.

What needs fixing, and what is the solution? What would appease the supporters?

a) Seating closer to the pitch. No quick fix, but what statement could they make (and they might back out)?

b) Sullivan's bollocks about transfers? That would take a major climb down immediately. Don't think that will happen. Would he be able to announce a restructuring that quickly?

c) Stewarding; not our problem, although a major issue.

d) Concession stands. Won't happen quickly.

e) Transfer budget; see a)

f) Appointment of a CEO. see a).

All this goes back to GSB.

dicksie3 10:17 Mon Mar 12
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I still can't believe how fucking two bob and downright fucking stupid our idiot cheapskate wanker owners are.

Did they honestly think that they'd get away with doing things on the cheap with minimal net spend?! If so, they're beyond fucking stupid.

I put my hands up and admit that I thought that they'd spend significantly more money at the new ground but net spend has actually decreased in consecutive seasons. It's fucking unforgivable.

They're starting to get the dog shit abuse that they truly deserve. There is no hiding from our fans. Enough is enough. They'll get hounded-out.

Why they even want all of this at their age, especially Gold, is beyond me. If the abuse keeps up it might even send them to an early grave - and they can only blame themselves for what they've done to this club and us supporters.

I just hope that our fans get the ambitious wealthy owners that we deserve soon. We deserve success more than any other set of fans in the country.

Thames Ironworks 10:11 Mon Mar 12
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Yes, yes we have heard before about Sullivan stepping down and letting someone else run the club or makes transfer decisions but as others have said, it won't happen.

He enjoys the whole buzz of the transfer window, trying to seal a bargain basement deal and then let his son parade how his dad got a new star for the club.

We have seen the flirtation with South American unknowns, a purchase of ex stars who are past it or get injured, young talent and other worldly leagues, yet we still fail to fined a great players. Payet was something different yet the investment to support him and grow just didn't happen.

The truth is players don't want to come here. They know we have a liar in our Chairman and to be honest the whole affair must seem unprofessional. The Carvalhao lies and the arguing over fees is just a constant excuse. Sullivan wants to wheel and deal and is generally not good at it. He gets the odd player at what looks a good price, but they fail to perform. You then get players which the manager won't play.

Why won't the manager play them, because the manager knows they cannot do a job. I think it is fair to say that although we hear that the manager has the final choice, the whole scouting and player recruitment affair at West Ham is a debacle. Even Sullivan knows it must change, hence his announcement on a whole new stats and scouting setup, but he'll still want to be involved and again it will fail.

If the owners want to make money, then they should sit back and do so and let the experts who can negotiate, sell the club as a professional outfit, and not insult them or the clubs they play for with derogative bids.

This is why we have failed and will continue to fail. Clubs who have less funds than us, can choose teams that gel, we can't because of the lack of expertise in this field.

Sven Roeder 9:50 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
The idea that Sullivan would take a back seat and not stick his nose in to football matters is fanciful nonsense
Would never happen. His arrogance about his own talents would never allow it

Man City 1-0 up at Stoke through the magician D Silva

AVOR 9:37 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Been some great articles in the standard since the vent, to be fair a large amount of newspaper space has been positive towards the fans providing a degree of understanding as to why the shit has finally hit the pan!

REALGSA 6:38 Mon Mar 12
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Dr Moose 5:10 Mon Mar 12

His kids hardly post anything West Ham and have done so the past year or more.

Last time they did was when fat sam was in charge

Mad Dog 6:25 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Jack flash 3.36
Good post

Private Dancer 5:49 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
I am completely bored with all of this now.

No longer care and hope we go down.

flyingV 5:45 Mon Mar 12
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Far East Hammer 4:58 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation

I make you exactly right FEH, which makes it even more bewildering that some of our support are so up in arms about the actions of some of our supporters leading to a loss at the weekend.

They have been shite on the pitch for nigh on 2 years now and our support has been unwavering. Bit rich now for them to cite us as a reason for a 3-0 loss at home to a relegation rival.

If being relegated is a by product of preserving whats left of our culture by forcing GSB out then I am not ashamed to say I would accept it in an instant.

What benefit is there to stay up only for the whole charade to be rolled out for yet another season? More underinvestment, more lies and the same soulless bowl.

Dr Moose 5:10 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
Was the condition about the Sullivan kids not putting club business on Social Media agreed and adhered to (I don't use Facebook, twitter or any social media)?

Far East Hammer 4:58 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
If we avoid the drop this year, but there are no significant changes in how our club is mis-run, then next year or at the very latest the year after, we'll be down anyway.

isolated hammer 4:56 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
The fact of the matter is, what happened on Saturday was nothing like the Milwall match a few years ago and nowhere near as bad as that huge ruck on the South Bank in 75 against Man Utd with the likes of Brooking, Bonds and Lampard milling about on the pitch while it was going on.

But this could of and still could get enormously out of hand if not dealt with in the right way.

If we have to play a game behind closed doors, will that stop thousands turning up to stand outside?

If we get a points deduction, that will only make the fans fury worse as that will consign us to relegation.

Does what happened on Saturday really warrant those punishments? Not a chance. Three or four fans ran onto the pitch many more vented against the board in venemous ways.

The board need to take notice and not come out with statements like "we will not be bullied out of the club".

I personally haven't got a clue, but I do think that the team have given up. Moyes can say all he wants, but eleven goals shipped in three games is appalling. We have five more home games, if Southampton do go 1-0 to the good, what will the atmosphere be like then?

w4hammer 4:13 Mon Mar 12
Re: Ken Dyer's take on the situation
So how can this perilous situation be improved? Most importantly, Sullivan must stop doing player deals and talking to agents but follow the example of practically every other professional club and appoint someone with experience and knowledge, whether a chief executive, managing director or whatever, to act as a conduit between owners and management.

_______

they could do this tomorrow- in fact this was one of the " five things we should ask west ham to do " when it all started kicking off

Appoint a proper CEO and Talent/Recruitment head who reports into him -would appease the fans immediately and keep them still as owners.

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